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An online petition has been launched demanding the apology from The Express Newspaper in Trinidad and Tobago for their recent publication on Sunday December 11, 2011 titled “What you should know about HOMOSEXUALITY.”

 

 

This petition seeks to demand an apology from The Express Newspaper (Trinidad and Tobago) for their recent publication on Sunday December 11, 2011 titled “What you should know about HOMOSEXUALITY”. Please sign this petition to let Trinidad and Tobago know that you are tired of siting back and reading blatant attempts of public hate and discrimination such as this. This is an outcry to human rights and by signing you can help others demand an apology from the Express and a retraction of this article online.

You do not need to understand Homosexuality to recognize hate and discrimination, you simply need to sign.

SIGN THE PETITION!

(redirects to: http://petitionbureau.org/stopxpressinghate)

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  • Nabeel Mohammed

    This ad is a shame to my country.

    • Correct

      If gays can speak freely so can straight people.

      • Nina

        Speaking freely, and disseminating total nonsense claiming it’s fact, are two completely different things.

        • Correct

          Disseminating nonsense? Wow. It is amazing how people love to turn a blind eye to anything they disagree with. You refusing to believe it does not make it less true.

          • InthemostBiblicalSense

            No what makes it less true is that fact that science has disproved it.. over 1500 species on Planet Earth exhibit homosexuality, do research, reject ignorance.

          • Correct

            What are the numbers of the animals that do it. Is there any species on earth where same sex anomalies are in the majority. We are talking about animals that are driven by horniness and availability of a mate. Are humans taking a back step into being classified as animals & are women unavailable? http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1905237,00.html

    • Correct

      It is a shame that gays think that they have more rights than everyone else. Straight people are entitled to our views. This is freedom of the press.

      • You’re actually wrong, and quite stupid

        Freedom? Everyone can have their opinion, but there’s a difference between someone expressing their views and a newspaper printing an offensive, biased article for the entire country to read. Christians also believe that everyone else is destined for hell, so according to your logic the Express should be allowed to print an article titled “Hindus and their Deceptive Demonic Idols”, or even a racist’s submission “Blacks, a Hazard to our Safety”, as this would just be freedom of speech right? And why dont they speak out against these supposed ungodly religions as well? Are they really interested in speaking out against what they believe is right and wrong? Or are they just looking to pick on a seemingly weaker group? Gays seem to be the easiest evil to address, but the gay community’s support is growing and when they finally stand up for themselves this nonsense will end and Christians will be forced to give them the respect they (usually) give everyone else with differing beliefs. I suppose with your level of intelligence its difficult for you too empathise with any group that you do not belong to or have personal interest in, but discrimination is discrimination and this article is very offensive.

        • Correct

          You see the problem is you are doing exactly what you do not wish for me to do. The article is not speculative neither is it offensive in tone. I did not call gays evil. You are calling them evil. Gays give their reasons for being gay openly & publicly. Why is it offensive to give another point if view or reasons why it should not be considered a natural thing? Why should gays be the only group given the right to speak? his article is not discriminating anyone. it is simply giving an alternate lifestyle to someone who may be on the fence. Apparently gays also have sole right to counsel confused people. You can try to paint it in any light you wish, the bottom line is the statistics were provided for the public consideration. The public has free choice to either agree or disagree. To prevent the public from even having the information is very oppressive & reeks of censorship. You try to paint it with discrimination but it is not and you know it. It is what it is, an outstretched hand for anyone who needs it. We do not try to silence gays, why are they trying so hard to silence us? Reverse oppression.

          • Hmm?

            Sir, nothing you said makes sense. If it is under the veil of ‘counseling confused people’ it should be based on scientific fact; there are no scientific facts here, trust and believe; therefore this was a tool for misinformation. Misinformation does not come out of compassion. Everyone has the right to speak; if your speech is as irresponsible as this, either it’s inadvertent and should be controlled or blatantly hateful – yes, hateful, done out of spite, blatant misdirection, bearing false witness for wicked purposes – and should be stomped out. If you would really argue that any old piece of slander that calls itself ‘statistics’ should never have its veracity questioned, then surely the fact that this piece of misinformation exists is indeed a problem.

        • Nzinga

          Preach it!!

          • Correct

            Isn’t it slanderous to believe the rectum was made for an act which sole purpose in nature is for reproduction. Kinky sexual may be enjoyable but that does not mean that sex on the whole should be transformed into something that is only used to achieve pleasure. The real purpose for sex is procreation and therefore it cannot be denied that same sex acts are perverting the purpose of sex.

      • astr8bistander

        you are right, gays are not entitled to any more rights that str8 ppl, but u never hear bout gay ppl writing up comments about str8 people !!! its not their business and if the gay ppl’s lives do not affect your own such as the people who took out the ad (their lives were not affected by what gay ppl do in their bedroom) however they felt the need to fight a war that has not even been started? why? in this case , the gays are entitled to fight back !!
        signed – innocent bystander

        • Correct

          You hear gay people justifying what they do all the time astr8bistander. You see they placarding all the social media. As for Hmm? There are references attached to the article for verification. Are you in a position to discredit The Medical Institute for Sexual Health? I will not argue with you because i do not expect the actual person with a problem to be the first to line up admit they have a problem. Anyone of us would deny to the end that we have problems. We all live in denial of something or the other. Denial however does not make the issue disappear. Sometimes an intervention is necessary. Gamblers, alcoholics, even people with OCD would not recognize their own problem if it was placed in full view for them to see. There are lot of people walking around suffering from depression and don’t know it. I do not expect people with hormonal imbalances to know they have an imbalance unless diagnosed by a doctor. People born with genetic defects seek to resolve whatever issues come with that defect. It does not make them inhuman but it has to be dealt with. People abused need to be given counseling to cope with the after effects of said abuse. A rape victim cannot be blamed for the trauma and paranoia that comes thereafter. But we all recognize that intervention may be necessary if people do not seek help themselves. Why is this any different?

      • InthemostBiblicalSense

        Correct, it has nothing to do with Gay and Straight rights, it’s about Human rights. And as for that ad, it’s a cesspool of lies, their references come from no credible sources and I would like to point out that their OWN COUNTRY has rejected their “stance” and trying to “convert” gays to straights, deeming it reckless. All gays that go through their treatment merely learn to suppress their homosexuality not totally getting rid of it.. RESEARCH is a beautiful thing.

        • Correct

          No amount of research you present is going to ever justify trying to convince people that a fraction of the population being gay should be considered normal. It just is not normal. When intestines start being a hospitable place for a baby I will consider it normal. In the meanwhile I am for live and let live. Just please try and let the community know that not all behavior is suitable for people’s children to be absorbing. That is my only beef with gay people. Keep behavior that is not for children’s eyes out of the public domain.

    • trini

      Why is it every time someone who is “straight” makes a comment about “gays” it’s always deemed as discrimination/hateful or defamatory? I agree the editor may have used the wrong choice of words at certain points in the article but to me it’s no way disrespectful nor hateful towards gays. Everyone has the freedom to information……..let’s just hope it’s used in the manner it was meant.

      • Hmm?

        If the statement is not actually grounded in factual reality, then yes. Either it was an honest mistake, or (more likely considering the wealth of information to the contrary) it was done to misinform. The law calls that slander.

        • trini

          Fair enough. Well I just hope the editor has good intentions & all those who read the article, whether gay or straight, not make it into a battle or gays against straights or anything of the sort. Well all are one under the sun. Love & peace.

          • Hmm?

            Love and Light. Thanks for understanding.

        • Correct

          The writer gave references that you refuse to even look at. These statement were not made randomly without basis. The tone of the entire article was not one of hate but apparently anytime anyone says something that does not support the gay agenda, it is viewed & labelled as hate. Hmm? you are the one with the hateful tone. You are being hateful, not the writer.

          • InthemostBiblicalSense

            I looked at the writer’s references, they are all from biased sources.. why doesn’t “the writer” post sources from The American Psychiatric Association, or The American Medical Association? because they will disprove his own sources.

          • Hmm?

            Biblical is right, which is the problem we have. The American Psychological Association has made statements several times countering the argument that LGBT persons are ‘broken’ in any way,here, here, and here. And mind you, if you make a psychological finding that doesn’t line up with, well, the majority of mental health experts, then it’s safe to say it’s an invalid assertion. Telling me ‘it’s statistics’ doesn’t attest to its veracity. Being verifiable and tested does, and the assertions in the ad do not stand up to scrutiny. It is like saying if someone put up any of the ‘studies’ done during slavery to convince people that Negroes weren’t human beings, we should judge them as valid because oh, look, footnotes!
            Seek the truth and it’s there. Don’t just expect us to eat this up because it calls itself ‘fact’ – a hard look at reputable sources and it crumbles.

          • Correct

            I don’t expect anyone to eat it up. I didn’t even know about the article until you all spread the word. As a matter of fact you all are making it more popular than it could have ever been on its own. I have a serious problem with people trying to censor something that for no other reason than they don’t agree with it. Am I saying that what you believe is not your truth. Because it is your truth that is no reason to suppress the article. No one would have given this article the time of day if you all had just leave it alone. Me personally, i would have skimmed over it. It does not look like an interesting read from glancing at it. You all should have just let it die a natural death. Your attempt to censor it is giving it more credence than you think.

          • Correct

            Is a prostitute mentally ill? Are promiscuous people mentally ill? Are men who marry 3 and 4 women illegally mentally ill. Are men in their 60′s who loom for barely legal girls mentally ill? Are gays mentally ill? Most sexual perversions aren’t labelled as mental illnesses. That in no way means that it is right or acceptable behavior. Very sane people do a lot of shit on a day to day basis. Does that justify the shit they do? You really have to come better than that if you want to convince me that petitioning this publication on the grounds of hate and discrimination is plausible. The publication in it’s content and intent is neither hateful nor discriminatory in any way so please stop this ridiculous petition.

  • Nirmala

    Just goes to show how far the Blue ( colour of Trinidad 100 bill) goes !!!! Absolutely disgusting !

    • Correct

      If gays can speak freely so can straight people. Don’t deny us our right to speak because we do not deny you yours.

    • Correct

      You all can delete my comments as much as you like. Gays are not the only people with rights. You all are trying to undermine the rights of straight people.

      • admin

        Sorry to disappoint you, ‘Correct’, but we have no intention of deleting your comments unless they contain threats or profanity. In fact, we are happy to give you a shovel to dig yourself further into a hole.

        • Correct

          hahaha. Well look at this. I am digging myself into a grave. I am creating balance to an otherwise skewed opinion of an article. Nowhere in this article was any hateful thing said but we have people claiming it is encouraging public hate. I swear that no one posting here even read the article. Gays believe that their sexual appetite is normal & straight people disagree. Where in this article did it come across as being hateful. I would like to see someone say exactly which part and I would like them to at least make some logical sense while proving their point. All I am seeing is a lot of people emotionally blurting out whatever comes to the top of their head. Not one person said anything logical to refute the article. All they want to make readers believe is that the article is discriminating and hateful. Prove to me that the natural order of life is same sex unions. Show me some sort of data that suggests that same sex unions is the way forward for mankind or any living animal. At least give me some sort of insight into how this is the natural evolution of man and woman. Are men making babies now? Do women make children without sperm ? And I know some joker is going to try to mention the immaculate conception. The only shovel I see is in your hands. Man blessed with intelligence try to justify every wrong thing we do. That is what it really boils down to. Gays are trying to justify what is happening to them. Maybe they should spend less time justifying and more time trying to figure out the root of the problem. I have a good friend that is gay and yes I do not fully understand why he is gay. I do not judge him, I certainly do not have the ability to bring him back to the fold and I think he is a great guy. The reason I believe we are cool with each other is because he does not try to make me feel like something is wrong with me for being straight and I accept that he is who he is. I may not agree with it but I accept it. The same way gays may not agree with this article but that does not mean straight people must not have a voice.

          • Hmm?

            We never said don’t have a voice, pardna, but use it responsibly, don’t slander with it, and take responsibility for not telling the truth when it’s called out. Also, did it occur to you that there may be straight people in disagreement with you? Because then we have an even bigger problem.

          • Correct

            Did the straight people who disagree read the article properly or just jump on their high horse like you did? The article was written responsibly. I cannot however, judging from your comments, say that it was read responsibly. Do not put your own twist on the article just because you have a point to prove. Stop trying to label it as hate when nothing hatefull was said or intended. You are on your own little mission to label everything that is not pro gay as hate. Do I hate a government I did not vote for? Do I hate people who are of another religion? Do I hate everything I do not agree with? The answer is no to all of the above. You however hate everything you do not agree with and turn around and call the thing you do not agree with hateful.

  • Darron Pirtheesingh

    As if I didn’t have enough reasons to be ashamed of this country…

    • Correct

      Don’t deny us our right to speak because we do not deny you yours. If gays can speak freely so can straight people.

    • Correct

      I am ashamed that you would think that only gays are allowed their minority opinion. If gays can speak freely what is the problem of allowing that same freedom to straight people.

  • Janelle Zakour

    Insulting…

    • Correct

      Insulting is believing that only gays people have the right to free speech.

    • Correct

      Thinking that only gays have the right to free speech is insulting.

      • InthemostBiblicalSense

        Are you an idiot? or are you trolling?

        • Correct

          I refuse to let you all believe you can circumvent peoples right to their point of view. It is not your point of view so you believe censoring any opposing view is somehow right. I am not letting this one slide. Enough with the bullshit. If gays can give reasons to try and prove being gay is normal well then straight people also have to right to give reasons why they do not see it as normal. Gays cannot and do not have sole right to free speech. And then try to demonize every opposing view as hateful. You all should be ashamed of the propaganda you all are partaking in. You want to be free but want to put everyone else into oppression. This will not rest easy with me at all.

  • Steve Sankar

    Way to go Express, now hang your head in shame. This clearly is about the $$$$$.

    • Correct

      It has nothing to do with money. It is outreach, an attempt to get mankind back on track.

      • candy

        Correct…an attempt to get mankind back on track…O_O…….a bit homophobic maybe???

        • Correct

          How is that homophobic? Someone writing an article to presenting another point of view has to be homophobic? What myopic eyes you have. Yes mankind has to get back on track. If everyone turned gay where would mankind be? Artificial insemination for everyone or test tube babies? Is that the way forward for mankind? I do not think that is the way forward. Every child should be conceived in love especially in hetero relationships. The alternative is nothing less than breeding humans.

        • InthemostBiblicalSense

          Back on Track he says.. little does he know, Religion has ruined the world. Oh well.

          • Correct

            Man ruin the world. Not religion. This has absolutely nothing to do with religion and everything to do with hypocrisy. I would be called hateful if I try to have a gay publication removed from existence. However when gays try to remove a publication posted by straight people it is heroic. Double standards will not win me over. If gays can give reasons to support their lifestyle, straight people can give reasons to support our lifestyle. Freedom for all, not just some who use the sympathy of others to further their cause.

    • Correct

      Clearly you are missing the point. But if you think stifling the views of the majority is not morally wrong, go ahead and complain.

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  • Kevin

    Yet another reason why we can’t achieve first world status.

    • Correct

      First world status does not mean mankind straying from the intended path.

    • Correct

      So first world status means following everything the US does weather it is right or wrong. What crap.

  • Mariyah R.

    Apparently “developed country” means your brain stops developing as well.

    • Correct

      So being straight means your brain does not work? I have certainly heard it all. Straight people has the same right to free speech as gays. So now gays are trying to oppress straight people’s right to free speech.

    • Correct

      So being straight means you have an underdeveloped brain. Now who is hating. Seems to me that supporters of gays are the biggest haters of them all. Only nasty comments from all who dislike the publication. Imagine if I was to say something nasty directed towards gays. All these nasty comments directly targeted against straight people, who i might add is in the majority. What next will I see, people supporting bestiality and calling the rest of us names.

      • InthemostBiblicalSense

        Well apparently your brain is underdeveloped so that theory is quite sensible, yes.

        • Correct

          This is what I am talking about. This attitude that gays have a right to condescend people who oppose their views. All the bloggers against this publication are using the most venomous, hateful language and tones and are accusing the article of being hateful. I would not have even posted any rebuttals had I seen some civility applied. So don’t be uncivilized and ask people to be civil towards you with the same breath.

  • Nigel Austin

    Hate, discrimination, mis-information from biased sources and archaic teachings that keep us in the dark ages should not be tolerated. Shame on you Express.

    • Correct

      So it is archaic to be hetero sexual? Wow. You sound blatantly ignorant.

      • Nigel Austin

        Completely lost the point “Correct”. No one said it’s archaic to be heterosexual, but it is ignorant and archaic to spread biased mis-information, hate and promote discrimination. What will The Express post next? A stereotypical, mis-informed article about people of colour have smaller brains and are incapable of civilization? You might possibly be in support of that too!

        • Correct

          That so called biased information has references. Maybe you could purchase the books and see if it was used out of context. If it was used out of context i would gladly agree with you and say it was biased. In the meanwhile you are being very opinionated for no reason at all other than to prove a point.

          • Nigel Austin

            References based on personal experience and not validated information ie factual or scientific. You clearly need to see the difference between a valid reference and an invalid one. Start by spending some time in a library.

          • Correct

            You need to spend some time reading a dictionary. The word normal cannot and will never be an accurate description of gays. Wake up from your dream. I accept that man has cloned a sheep. Was this considered a normal thing? Are sheep being cloned so high in frequency that we can be justified by saying it is something normal? Because it is something that is doable, do we assume there are no negative long term effects to arise from this? Are we to endorse it because no one appears to be in harms way other than the sheep. Are we not undermining the process of natural selection in nature? We are being programmed to believe everything is ok once no one seems to be physically harmed. Not because we can find ways to justify something means it can be categorized as normal or even worth doing.

          • Nigel Austin

            Once upon a time we were programmed to believe that being black or coloured was inferior and deserved no rights because of it…some even quoted the Bible as a reference. And guess what? Back then, that was normal! We were once programmed to believe that women were inferior, and that also has references (the bible included). And in those times, it was considered normal to have slaves and deny women rights to vote, inherit property etc. It was also normal to let your daughter marry her rapist, stone people and commit genocide. Perhaps we should go back to some of those norms…and publish them in the newspapers.

          • Correct

            Are you all losing it. We are talking about behavior and choice not something forced on someone. No one is forcing gays to be straight. It is just shit and more shit you all keep repeating on this board. No one said gay people are inferior., no one said gays should be treated negatively. You all keep adding shitty twists to the article. Please learn to limit conversations about something based on what was actually said. I keep on wondering if you all read the same article. How can you compare something forced on someone to an article that is targeted to someone who might me confused sexually. Don’t take apples and call it oranges just because you feel like it. I wish some of you would make better arguments.

          • Correct

            Keep searching for loopholes, One might make sense eventually.

  • Perry Polar

    Equality for some is not equality at all

    • Correct

      So why can’t straight people have the same right to freedom of speech. Clearly everyone posting here is trying to remove that right. Apparently only gays can speak freely.

      • Mark

        Correct I feel is you who write that shit, who say anything about straight people shouldn’t have rights and who is trying to take it away? no body. Truly seems you are the ignorant one!

      • Tracey

        @Correct. Go get an education!!! Apparently you need a lot to learn.

        • Correct

          You cannot and will never circumvent my right to free speech. You have a next thing coming if you think you can just complain about something you don’t like and have your way like spoilt little brats. This is not America where everything goes. So get a grip. in Trinidad we bad talk everything and everybody. Even if you do not like or agree with a topic, that does not mean it should be labelled as hateful. You love to use that word to get sympathy from your friends. Let me say this loud and clear for all the straight people on this blog. Not all gays are nice loving people like the few good gay friends you have. There are gays who would try and recruit little boys, gay priest who have and probably still are ruining people’s lives, gay predators & the list goes on and on. Just as there are perverted straight people, there are perverted gays. Do not stick your head in the sand and think there is only one nice personality type to the gay community. You may want to believe that all gays are nice loving people like your friends but there are gays who are also damaged goods. There are gays that are the product of circumstance. There are gays that are sexually broken. It is easy to deny this and condemn this article for trying to address the ones that are broken but how would that help the ones that actually need help? Even if you disagree with everything I have said it is still my right to say it as I see it. The article is not hateful. You want to argue that the person is giving misinformation, well guess what, that is your right. Why try to oppress the author of the article’s rights.

    • Correct

      I guess you should allow straight people the equal right to speak.

  • jasmineaqua

    seriously? is this nonsense written by Uncle Ruckus too? the line between politicians and preachers is such a thin one these days

    • Correct

      Why try and oppress someone’s right to free speech.

      • InthemostBiblicalSense

        There’s a difference between free speech and ignorance. Learn.

        • Correct

          Ignorance is believing that only gays deserve to have an audience with the general public.

  • Shelly-Ann Lewis

    In 2011 mistakes like these should not be made!

    • Correct

      What mistake? We have a democracy which entitles us to freedom of the press. Why is it the majority (straight people) being condemned to silence. As far as i am concerned straight people are being pushed into the closet. Straight people enjoy the same freedom of speech as gay people.

  • http://www.globewriter.com Vernon O’Reilly-Ramesar

    Vile and evil only begin to describe this steaming pile of misinformation. As someone who has a senior management background in media advertising just noted on FB though –

    “Besides this advertisement being malicious and disgusting…it is also illegal. The Advertising Standards Authority prohibits ads to be published without a clear indication of who is paying for the ad and redress information. Letters should be sent to the Media Complaints Council (868/800-4622); Trinidad and Tobago Publishers and Broadcasters Association (TTPBA); Chamber of Commerce (Media Committee); and MATT.”

    • Correct

      It is called freedom of speech. What everyone here is saying, is that straight people should just shut their traps and be quiet. We will not be quiet. We have children who are easily influenced to consider. Apart from all the other ills in our society our children are constantly bombarded with gay images and opinions. We will not be quiet and go away. I am very glad to see this publication and if you ask me it is 30 years too late.

      • rainbow heterosexual

        i am offended that you think you speak for all heterosexual people. there are many rational thinking straight people who understand that spreading misinformation about a minority population is offensive, bigoted and tantamount to hate speech.

        if your children are so easily influenced by what other people are doing in the privacy of their own homes, you have some nosy children that you should be training better. if these “gay images and opinions” are undoing all the work that you have done as a parent, then you are clearly a subpar parent.

        do not deign do impose your bigoted opinions onto the rest of the population. the hatred you have been spewing on this thread makes me sick. what difference does it make to your life what other people are doing? they are not affecting or threatening your life. if you truly believe that their very existence threatens your idyllic life, you are dealing with some deep seated insecurities.

        freedom of speech is not absolute. it does not entitle you to spew hate towards your fellow citizens. there are restrictions. blatant falsehoods are such a restriction.

        your comparison downthread of homosexuality to bestiality solidify in my mind your warped view of the world. the fact that you’ve sided with ian alleyne on the that atrocious display on his show demonstrates that you my dear, are a relic of the old world.

        your entire argument is a logical fallacy. please leave us be.

        • Correct

          I would leave you be if you leave us be. We do not agree with your views and we are entitle to say so. Oh and I am the warped one. Two grown men performing an act that was meant for reproduction and have no means of actually reproducing is not the warped concept. When babies are conceived and grown in someone’s butt I will concede that i am the warped one. Until then you are just fooling yourself.

          • rainbow heterosexual

            so heterosexual anal play is a warped concept?
            why do we feed the trolls….

  • Reesa Forrester

    I am appalled that this is allowed to go to print, ‘sexual brokenness’, really!
    I will personally go further and boycott buying Express from now on.

    • Correct

      I am appalled to think that you do not realize that something is wrong and if all humans were gay life would cease to exist for us. Maybe these gays should consider that they would not even be alive if their parents made the same CHOICE that they made.

      • You’re actually wrong, and quite stupid

        According to your logic, condoms and birth control are also “wrong” too, as you would not be alive if your parents used a condom, no? When have homosexuals asked for anyone else to adopt their lifestyles? I cant see how anyone with moderate intellect can convince themselves that homosexuality is a threat to mankind’s existence when approximately only 10% of the population is homosexual, while the other 90% have reproduced us into overpopulation; Im guessing that you are completely unaware that overpopulation is a problematic issue in many countries, as you dont seem very educated. Furthermore, when have homosexuals called for anyone else to adopt their lifestyle? As for your “freedom of speech” bit, everyone can have their opinion, but there’s a difference between someone expressing their views and a newspaper printing an offensive, biased article for the entire country to read. Also, Christians believe that everyone else is destined for hell, so according to your logic the Express should be allowed to print an article titled “Hindus and their Deceptive Demonic Idols”, or even “Blacks, a Hazard to our Safety”, as this would just be freedom of speech right? I suppose with your level of intelligence its difficult for you too empathise with any group that you do not belong to or have personal interest in, but discrimination is discrimination and this article is very offensive. I pity all the unevolved minds that agree with your opinion.

        • Correct

          From your logic it seems that we should not comment on people who practice bestiality, incest, promiscuity or sex with minors either. If it is wrong it is wrong. Can you say that the man who is having sex with a cow is not in love with the cow? Can we tell people that it is not their right to have multiple sexual partners? No we can’t tell people what to do with their lives, but we can advise and give reasons why it is not the best choice. That is all this article is about. It is not about discriminating. So you can keep your hateful tone. You see this is what I am talking about. Would it be acceptable for me to say that gays are stupid for their opinions or choice? Yet here you are calling me stupid and being hateful. Way to go in proving that reverse hate is now the order of the day. So now gays are going around hating on straight people & their opinions. Good way to win me over. Maybe if you call me stupid enough times I might start thinking it is alright to be gay. Maybe if you make it seem like I am a religious zealot I might start to believe that I should be gay too. Maybe if you go to the mountain top and scream discrimination every time someone gives an opinion on being gay we will change our opinion. You want people to have an open mind but you close yours. Is this the way gays try to communicate their cause to straight people? By calling them names? Can I call you a faggot and get away with it like how you thought you could get away with calling me stupid. I have free speech and I intend to use it till I die. Stop oppressing straight people.

      • InthemostBiblicalSense

        It’s not a choice though.. Correct, I suggest you do a bit of Scientific research.

        • Correct

          Maybe for some of you it is not a choice due to chemical imbalances or genetic errors but don’t try to convince me that it is not a choice for all gays. Absolutely ridiculous to say the least. I see men behaving more feminine than women. Were they born this way or was that an acquired trait? Women who were born women don’t behave as ridiculous as some gays in their body language. This exaggerated behavior is not genetic but learned. So you are barking up the wrong tree if you think that this born this way thing applies to all gays. It is nothing more than propaganda. Some gays are actually the product of vicious abuses, and other negative influences in their life. Notice I said some, not all. But people with a gay agenda prefer to lie to the public to get sympathy support. This publication does not address all gays but it speaks to many gay people who were not born this way.

  • Roshinder Singh

    Time to catch up with the rest of the world..This is quite depressing.

    • Correct

      You depress me. Why should my children have to add homosexual influence to their list of problems.

      • InthemostBiblicalSense

        Yeah exactly, when they already have you as a parent at the top of that list.

        • Correct

          Funny. Good one. But that is all it is, a joke. Fortunately I take this a little more serious than you do.

  • Curtis Graham

    This article is a pure insult to Trinidad and Tobago and it’s people in every aspect, again this only proves to us what you really do not know!!!

    • Correct

      this article is insulting only to people who refuse to read it properly or look at the references.

      • InthemostBiblicalSense

        There is no proper reading for this? The references are more biased than Fox News. Look, away from my presence with your ignorance.

  • Jill

    I have refused to read this paper since I started coming back to TnT. In fact I only red the Guardian and Newsday. It depresses me greatly that every foreign person who steps foot in this contry is greeted with such sensationalisn and negativity that this paper protrays. Worst than the paper is it’s TV station TV6 which I also refuse to watch. The recent violations to the rights of children as portrayed by Mr. Alleyne disgust me to my core. B/c newspapers like this continue to be in business, as a country we are held back in chains.

    • Correct

      The rapist being caught disgusted you as well? Only lip service from someone who did not lift a finger personally to capture a single rapist. I am quite sure the mother is very satisfied with Ian Alleyne’s results. I am very disappointed when people who can’t or won’t do anything to help, complain about the people who are helping. You are quite free to choose what you like. Too bad you won’t help but complain about people who are.

      • InthemostBiblicalSense

        Oh you’re an Ian Alleyne supporter? Explains alot.

        • Correct

          Yeah it explains that I agree that people who are not afforded justice because of how much money they have still can find it through Ian Alleyne. Hate on the man all you want but he got more convictions than the police did during the state of emergency.

          • Correct

            You know everybody complain and I agree it was in very poor taste, but if you put that girl in a line up with other girls that just slightly have the same features no one will be able to ID her properly. The video was so poor in quality that I being a video editor couldn’t find one identifying feature of the person even after slowing it down. So yes Ian Alleyne went overboard because I remember asking myself if he was crazy when I saw it. People do shit sometimes. That does not mean to remove him so no one else can get his assistance.

  • Richard

    I can’t believe this this is truly a backward step.
    The editors of this newspaper should be ashamed spreading such hate

    • Correct

      This is not hate. Nowhere did I see a hateful comment in this article. Apparently people these days are confusing information they do not agree with or like as hate. maybe I should say that your comment is hateful to straight people. Would that make it true? Stop being blind sided with emotion. Do not spew your hate all over the article.

    • Straight, Straight, Straight

      So being gay is a forward step? Really now, how?

      • InthemostBiblicalSense

        No one is asking you to be gay.. Gays can’t change who they are, they are just asking for tolerance and acceptance and that articles like these, be stricken from the newspapers, and I completely agree.

        • Correct

          That is exactly what gays want you to believe. Why is then some gays were actual practicing hetero sexuals before they turned gay? Didn’t you just say people don’t change their sexual preference? Gays try to make us believe that being gay is a one size fit them all scenario. That is an outright lie. People change their sexual preferences more frequently than you admit. There are lesbians who end up being lesbians after abuse from men.They were hetero before the abuse and changed their preference. There are lesbians who call themselves lesbians but they are actually bisexual. So don’t try to sell me the propaganda. There are a lot of misguided people out there who can do with some counseling.

  • Correct

    Why are people acting like the article is lying? The truth offends I guess. Nothing is wrong with this article and just because a lot of homosexuals jump on this board to compailn does not make the article bad. By nature man was meant to be with woman. The human race would cease to exist if it is allowed to turn gay. We accept people for who they are but that does not make what they do disappear. There is no third gender. I know the gay community believe they are in the right and are willing to turn everyone’s children gay at the drop of the hat, but I think no one can judge but keep your lifestyle to yourselves and stop trying to influence our children negatively with open public displays. Everyone is entitled to live their life how they see fit and suffer the consequences of their behavior, once it does not affect someone else negatively. I am in full support of letting people know the other side of the coin which is clearly outlined in this publication. You all are trying to desensitize us. We will not be distracted. What you all are trying to justify is almost like trying to justify promiscuous behavior, bestiality, incest, child pornography or sex with underage children. No matter how you try to spin it, it is not normal, natural or acceptable.

    • aaron

      it is clear correct that you have a lil gay bee in your bonnet, wondered about it all your life haven’t you?

      • Correct

        Wow. What utter stupidity. It is better to keep your mouth shut and have people think you’re dumb instead of opening it and proving them right. All you gay activist are the people who spew hate. Only hate on this page is from you guys.

    • Hmm?

      Just in case anyone here, including Correct, doesn’t know: none of the logical fallacies (slippery slope defense in the end there), fear-mongering (gays want to convert kids? really?) or other misdirections in the ad or in Correct’s comments are in any way factually valid. ‘The other side of the coin’ depicted here is not rooted in reality, only in fear-mongering. Seek the objective truth and it isn’t actually that far; don’t be misled by zealotry that is itself not exposed to the reality.

      • Correct

        How many gay priests have ruin children’s lives? What nonsense are you talking about Hmm? Yes gays influence our children with their public displays and subliminal influence on Hollywood. You apparently are limiting gays to only decent people. I am sorry to tell you that not all gay people are decent people the same way not all straight people are decent people. You are living in a dream world if you believe for one second that some gays do not try to recruit people.

        • Hmm?

          Wait a minute…
          Wait a minute…
          so what we’re saying is that pedophilia = homosexuality; portraying homosexuals as human beings on television is ‘subliminal influence’; and that homosexuals are out to convert all of humanity?
          Hmm.
          [Next, we're gonna believe in the Illuminati...]
          Trust me, [in]Correct, I’m wide awake.

          • Correct

            We can turn a channel. Men kissing publicly, men in drag or talking like women and men portraying extreme effeminate behavior is now taking over malls, fast food outlets and cinemas. We have to find ways to explain to our children why men are behaving like such idiots publicly. Many gays do not restrict their courting to people over 18 and do not pretend you do not know what I am talking about. Teenagers are easy targets for many gays the same way how teenage girls are the targets of many straight men. Do not for one minute think I do not know this. It does not even have to be as young as primary school boys for it to be wrong. Homosexuals target young influential boys because the pool for homosexuals to dip in is not that large. Yes homosexuals recruit people. Yes homosexuals include pedophiles. Homosexuals are seen doing homosexual acts on television more and more frequently. A homosexual acting a normal role without any physical manifestation (sex scenes) is not what I am talking about and you know it, But it seems like you always want to twist things to suit your own means. Scenes of men engaging is sexual acts will never be seen by my children, but they are included in movies I may want to see just in an attempt to desensitize me. Well I have very sad news for you gays. I will never be desensitized.

    • http://www.globewriter.com Vernon O’Reilly-Ramesar

      Most stupidity is appalling but you are going for the gold medal. Proceed. Brave of you to use you real name…oh wait,,,,

      • Correct

        My real name has no influence on this topic. Basket doh hold water. Keep believing that we will just willingly allow our children to be influenced by gays. What people do is their own business as far as I am concerned but when it leaks out unto our streets & our televisions, I draw a line. And I am not talking about gay behavior, I am talking about all negative behavior. Our children are looking and we need to make sure what they see is good for them to ingest. This article presents an alternative choice for people who are confused about their preferences. Let them at least have a choice.

    • InthemostBiblicalSense

      Correct, your level of hypocrisy and plain old ignorance from the REAL truth is appalling.

      • Correct

        Fortunately I am not the one telling you that you cannot say what you believe. I am saying however to stop mislabeling the article as hateful. It clearly isn’t.

  • Correct

    All of you with the negative comments are total hypocrites. Apparently only gays have rights. Straight people cannot voice their views. Only gays are allowed to voice their views uncontested. You all are full of it. You want freedom but at the expense of straight peoples freedom. If gays can speak freely so can straight people.

    • Mark

      yes voice your views if you please but the views must make scene, not like that jackass bullshit that was put in the papers

    • Correct is wrong

      Correct, I am a straight Christian person and I can say that you’re talking a lot of nonsense. This article promotes fictitious reasoning and insinuations that are false and make little sense. Yes there is freedom of speech, but not when it is used like this to spew misinformation and lies.

    • rainbow heterosexual

      speak freely does not mean “make shit up”. that is in fact what this article has done.
      MAKE SHIT UP.

      • Correct

        Do you not see the references quoted? It is just as I suspected. No one here is reading the article properly, just skimming through it and expecting to understand it. Read it again rainbow or better yet get the references and discredit those first.

        • Anon

          So if I were to write an article and use a Harry Potter novel as a reference for my “facts” would you believe them to be true as well just because I have a reference???

          • Correct

            Anon please be logical. You are free to check the reference and present some proof that it is illegitimate. If you are not going to do that I suggest you speak some more sense.

  • candy

    HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE….I’ve being reading previous comments about straight people having the right to express themselves just as much as gay people. Does that mean though that you muzzle my opinion because yours seems to be superior to mine. Who really has the right of expression there. I think someone needs to read the article again.

  • Relax

    How ridiculous! Trinidad has REAL issues to deal with….poverty, robberies, flooding, economic issues and people are getting riled up over an article. Listen, for the gays out there…even if your families have accepted you and your friends…and yes, I mean accept…because it is not a normal thing to be gay….you were not born and expected to be gay…you had to come out…even after people did the decent thing and accepted you…you probably did meet some sort of resistance…some sort of literature…view similar to what was expressed in the article…and what did you do? Not ignore it?? So do likewise with this article!! Geeeez.

    • The Full Picture

      First person to make some kind of sense, even if a little.

    • InthemostBiblicalSense

      Gays are born that way, deal with it.

      • Correct

        There are many gays who were hetero sexuals before making the switch. Do not come here and lie to the general public about born this way. I know women who call themselves gay but they are really bisexual. Some of them end up that way because of too much exposure to the wrong men or exposure to abuse from men. So don’t come trying to paint all gays with the same born this way brush. Being human is more complex than the gay community is letting on. Because the gay community wants to go forward with this unified born this way slogan does not make it true. Explain to me one thing. Why is it that a gay man would look for someone who is effeminate by nature or have feminine traits when the only difference between them and a woman is a penis and breasts? If the only difference between that two is penis and breasts why the man couldn’t find a masculine built woman and use a dildo if he likes anal sex? Why pretend it is a man you want when it seems to me you only want a penis? Seems to me they are looking for a woman minus the complications that come with a woman with the addition of anal sex. Now this is not an accurate description of all gay relationships but it definitely fits some of them. Then there are lesbians who look for masculine built women or women with masculine traits and they still end up using a dildo. Seems to me they are looking for a man minus the complications that come with a man. Now this is also not an accurate description of all lesbian relationships but it fits many of them. Why are we not admitting to that. We know countless women who end up lesbian after horror stories with men. Were they born this way or forced to be this way? Don’t think for one moment that people in general are stupid enough to buy this born this way one size fits all explanation.

  • Straight, Straight, Straight

    To be Gay is illegal in Trinidad. And please, let it stay so! Just as Gay people are fighting for their rights, there are other groups who are fighting for their rights to have sex with minors! Gayness is a sexual perversion!

    • http://www.globewriter.com Vernon O’Reilly-Ramesar

      Dear imbecile.
      There is no law saying being gay is illegal in T&T. There is an ancient law based on ( literally) Queen Victoria – the same one who thought ‘darkies’ were inferior – against sodomy. The law has never been used in recent memory. Now wallow in your ignorance and crawl back into your hole as I will not discuss anything with people who don’t even know what the law is.
      No further to follow.
      Never feed the trolls.

      • The Full Picture

        I don’t know what ancient Queen Victoria law you are talking about but while liking another man intimately is not a crime having sex with one is. According to Section 13 and 16 of the Sexual Offences Act of 1986 in Trinidad and Tobago’s constitution, it IS illegal, I don’t care how long ago it was it is still the law. You need to check your facts, Mr. Ramesar.

        • InthemostBiblicalSense

          Sodomy is illegal.. not sex between 2 men.. you get your facts right.

          • The Full Picture

            First of all sodomy is defined as ‘an anal or other copulation-like act, especially between male persons or between a man and animal’ If that is not sex between men then I would like to know what dictionary you are using. And furthermore, I was not referring to sodomy, I was referring to buggery which is defined as (taken directly from Section 13 of the Sexual Offences Act) “sexual intercourse via the anus by a male person with a male person or by a male person with a female person”. Whether it is consenting or not, this can still be used as cause to charge persons caught in this act and homosexuals in this country therefore still can be charged under our law. I am not interested in arguing with anyone, as many people seem to want to do in this forum, just stating the facts whether people believe it or not.

      • Correct

        Vernon you really need to get over yourself. the bible has an eye for an eye & then it has turn the other cheek. You want to discredit laws now based on the sovereignty that made it were slave masters? And you are so illiterate that you don’t even read the newspapers to see that the law is only enacted when done against the person’s will and mostly occurs in rape cases involving women. No one in Trinidad is charged with voluntary, over 18 in age sodomy. get off your high horse and look for evidence before you attack people. the law is still relevant. I have never heard of a gay Trini being sent to jail for sodomy between consenting adults.

  • Tracey

    Gays, straights…..I had enough of this. We are all the SAME; human beings. Whoever you chose to lie with is your business and no one else’s. This is EXTREMELY shameful and disgusting. And it’s not about gay rights it’s about human rights. STOP THE DISCRIMINATION!!!!

    • Straight, Straight, Straight

      That is rubbish. So the pedophiles petitioning for their rights to have sex with minors are also human beings who have the right to do so?? Are you that ignorant that you will say they have a right to choose? So having morals now means that your are discriminating? If you will argue that sex between two consenting adults as in gays is Ok…so what about persons who have sex with prostitutes? That is between two adults and they are consenting…is That also their right and one should not discriminate?

      • http://www.globewriter.com Vernon O’Reilly-Ramesar

        You are so ignorant you don’t really deserve a reply but if you equate two adults loving each other with pedophilia you need counselling and some form of education.

      • Jessica

        Stupid article posting a bunch of crap for ppl to believe.Oh lord the ignorance in this country is a joke.
        Love has no gender . People should be free to love who they want once the other person consents regardless of whether they be male , female , transgender etc . Also it’s none of our business who sleeps with who and no one can deny another person’s feelings ( regardless of what bull certain commentors in this thread have to say )

      • InthemostBiblicalSense

        LOL @ you comparing pedophilia which is listed as a mental disease to homosexuality which is consistent in over 1500 species on the planet.. away with you.

        • Correct

          InthemostBiblicalSense you are so wrong it is not funny. You want to use anomalies in nature and make it seem like it a norm. The only way a species moves forward is through male/female reproduction or asexual reproduction. There is no other natural way for it to happen. Trying to compare gays to a minority of animals is very pathetic to say the least. Being gay is not normal and it is about time you face the truth. When a gay male naturally gets pregnant through anal sex is when you will have a point to argue. Until then it is not normal and you are not going to convince rational thinking people otherwise. Normal is the majority. Here are some definitions of the word normal for people who do not understand well.

          nor·mal [nawr-muhl] adjective
          1. conforming to the standard or the common type; usual; not abnormal; regular; natural.

          2. serving to establish a standard.

          3. Psychology .
          a. approximately average in any psychological trait, as intelligence, personality, or emotional adjustment.
          b. free from any mental disorder; sane.

          4. Biology, Medicine/Medical .
          a. free from any infection or other form of disease or malformation, or from experimental therapy or manipulation.
          b. of natural occurrence.

        • Correct
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  • Guy

    The person known as correct….its clear that you have no true understanding of intent. The article clearly is meant to express homosexuality as a disease. And both homosexuals and heterosexuals have rights. Slander however is not a right and if you truly believe that it is….you are in such a sorry state. It is so unfortunate that such a high level of lack of education still exists on our island. It’s appalling that here in Trinidad people can go and put false information in the newspapers like that without repercussions spreading ignorance just like people can go on the radio and make medical claims such as being able to cure menopause (which is not even a frigging disease but a normal physiological part of a woman’s life). So Mr. Correct I suggest that you actually educate yourself a bit more before you continue braying.

    • Correct

      Please do not get on Vernon’s case. When you live with a problem you hardly ever admit it is a problem. I would advise we treat Vernon with kids glove before this blog gets out of hand. Vernon loves to resort to name calling and other juvenile behavior.

    • Correct

      Guy you are free to say what you wish and i am petitioning that right to the author. I am sorry if you think censorship is ok. The article is not hateful in intent, tone or language so why mislabel it that way. I agree with you it is not a disease. but that does not mean it is not a problem. Old age is not a disease but that does not mean it is not problematic. Menopause is not a disease. PMS is not a disease. Because it is not a disease does not mean it won’t come with inherent problems. Nowhere in the article did it say homosexuality is a disease. Menopause would read like a disease just like the publication may appear to read like a disease to you. The big difference is that homosexuality is not normal. It does not occur in to every man or woman. Every man and woman has to go through old age and the pains it brings. Every woman with little exceptions, go through menopause or PMS. So please do not try to stretch the conversation to make homosexuality come across as normal or natural. It just isn’t and the numbers prove it. It is in the minority and I would be happy when it stops altogether.

  • jay

    Clearly a case of money talks…the folks at The Express see nothing wrong in accepting money for a “paid advertisment” such as this. I encourage folks to exercise their rights to support what they believe (yes, you too Correct) and choose whether or not to support the editors choices by purchasing their paper. More action, less talk…

    • Correct

      Jay before this petition, if i actually saw this article i would not even read the entire thing. it is not something i am even remotely interested in giving the time of day for no other reason than i am very bust and there are more important things to read in the newspaper. However after reading the comments on this blog about how hateful the article was, i was forced to read it and take a position. My position is this, all over the world gays are fighting for their right to be who they want to be and give millions of reasons why they should be considered normal. I have not seen a single petition on facebook to stop any gay publication or pro gay views. One publication on homosexuality that is in no way intended to be offensive and gays ready to hang the writer by a noose. I therefor see a double standard and hypocrisy by those who are attempting to oppress the publication. i was forced to take this position for no other reason than it is outright boldfaceness on the part of the gay community and their supporters to assume what they say goes. We live in a democracy. It is not what you say goes. So try as you might to encourage your straight friends to believe that this is hate against gays, I am sad to tell say that you are the misinformed ones.

  • Ellen

    “Correct”, I see you continually post that the voice of straight people is being stifled, but as a straight person, I BEG to disagree with you. Please do not presume that you speak for ALL straight people, because the majority of us do NOT agree with you. You seem to be out of the loop but let me let you in on a little secret: people like you, with your myopic, backward, shallow viewpoint, are actually in the minority. The nonsense in this ad purporting to be ‘fact’, is embarrassing, and even more embarrassing is folks like you who downright LIE and pretend that you speak for all of us. You DO NOT. You DO NOT speak for the majority, you DO NOT speak for heterosexuals…you speak only for YOURSELF. DO NOT make the mistake of assuming that being straight automatically means we all share your bigoted views. Be an adult and own your bigotry, don’t try to palm it off on the rest of us. The fact that you took the time to respond to EVERY comment shows just how obsessed you are with this topic, and I think you need to ask yourself WHY the activities of CONSENTING adults bothers you so much.

    • Correct

      Well you could go ahead and let your child digest as much gay lifestyle as you want. I on the other hand will give my children a fighting chance to be normal. Yes I said it normal. Because whatever the argument, gay is not normal, not in nature, not now not ever. So jump high jump low, the truth is the truth. I do not push hate. My children would not grow up hating anyone, but I will make sure they know what normal acceptable behavior is. You could raise your kids to believe that gay is normal, I would not. if my kids turn out gay I would love them the same, but it would not be because I voluntarily exposed them to any untoward lifestyle. maybe when you have children Ellen you would understand how easily influenced they are. They are like sponges, they soak up everything around them. Mine will not be soaking up the blatant gayness or other craziness I see around.

      • InthemostBiblicalSense

        actually it is in nature.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior
        research is wonderful, ain’t it?

      • InthemostBiblicalSense

        Correct shut up… your ignorance is painful.

        • Correct

          Maybe you should start your research in the dictionary. in case you didn’t read the other post.

          nor·mal [nawr-muhl] adjective
          1. conforming to the standard or the common type; usual; not abnormal; regular; natural.

          2. serving to establish a standard.

          3. Psychology .
          a. approximately average in any psychological trait, as intelligence, personality, or emotional adjustment.
          b. free from any mental disorder; sane.

          4. Biology, Medicine/Medical .
          a. free from any infection or other form of disease or malformation, or from experimental therapy or manipulation.
          b. of natural occurrence.

          Gay is not normal.

          • Hmm?

            You do know that, unless you are admitting to your misinformed assumptions of LGBT persons, everything you highlighted as normal does still indeed apply to them? Including the ‘of natural occurrence’ part.

          • Correct

            How can something be considered normal when it occurs in the minority of cases. This leads me to another point. Why is it gays only attempt to bring some credence to their claims with loopholes. You try to explain your claims with loophole after loophole and believe somehow that this is solid ground for a claim. So as far as I can tell all you do is try to evade the truth.

  • Locally grown

    To all of the people who are thinking this is the right way to go, consider the fact that those references are garbage. The LGBT community is not taking out POORLY CITED ads in the newspapers and talking about heterosexual individuals. Of COURSE these articles will justify homosexuality being wrong; they are mostly Christian based sources. And the one page article about the “dangers” of homosexuality by the medical institute of sexual health? Come on. As a consumer, don’t fall prey to junk science (can’t even call this pseudo-science). Where does Exodus ministry get their information from? It’s certainly not from ACTUALLY conducting studies. Don’t let your personal biases cloud your better judgment folks. In a matter of minutes, you can sit and discredit each and every one of those “sources.”

    • Correct

      Well seeing that you like science, lets see how much evolution it will take to have have same sex reproduction. You try to spin it in all directions & all I can get is the same conclusion. If being gay is the normal or natural then man would have evolved by now to have same sex reproduction. Seeing that it has not and will never happen gays cannot call their sexual preference natural. It is a preference & choice. now for the people who tout born this way, There are more than 4,000 different known birth defects. About 150,000 babies are born with birth defects each year in the United States. Are we to say this is normal as well? Whether the explanation is hormonal imbalance or whatever reason you can use to explain it, the answer is still the same. It is not normal. Now because it is not normal does not mean people should be treated as sub humans. But let us recognize the truth. It is not normal. We treat people the same. We respect their choices, once it is not damaging to others, but don’t try to convince it is normal. It is not. Nothing you source will ever say that homosexuality is normal except if you go on a Wikipedia page written by gays to help their agenda.

      • Locally grown

        Correct,

        If the purpose of humans is to reproduce, what do you propose we do about impotent men and infertile women? By your “logic” they too are unnatural but we aren’t condemning them, now are we? Gay agenda? What century are you stuck in? You are using the same awful rhetoric that has been thrown out. It’s unnatural for us to cut our hair and to wear clothes; why aren’t we stoning people for that type of behaviour? Come nah man. Better than that.

        • Correct

          None of the examples you give are in the majority so therefore none of the examples you gave are considered normal. I am not stoning anyone. You all are stoning the author of the publication. Nothing in the publication is hateful in intent. It may be considered hurtful if you are gay. But a lot of the time the truth offends so I am sorry if the community is offended but the article presents an alternative to being gay because you are confused.

          • Correct

            One more thing I never said the purpose of humans is to reproduce. I said the purpose of sex is to reproduce.

  • InthemostBiblicalSense

    Obviously “Correct” is attention seeking.. Ignore him.

    • Correct

      Yeah ignore the majority of people who wish for their kids to grow up straight and listen to the minority who try to convince us it is natural or normal.

  • Joe

    steeeuuupppsss… homosexuality is not consistent with the natural laws of reproduction.. meaning it is Anti-productive and this is an undeniable fact.. gays are just damn nasty perverts and sick ppl who need treatment. please go in a hole and stay hidden and this petition can suck a dick. Homosexuality is WRONG!! Period!

    • InthemostBiblicalSense

      Umm it is consistent with nature.. GO SEARCH 1500 species on earth display homosexual activity.. please just go with your ignorance, it’s painful.

      • Correct

        How about you do some real research instead of just quoting figures. Here are the reasons for said animals being gay. It has nothing to do with love and just pure horniness and unavailability of the opposite sex. Please read. And I hope you don’t believe that John Cloud, a gay author for times magazine is biased. Please educate yourself a little better than you are right now. Don’t believe the hyper. http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1905237,00.html

    • InthemostBiblicalSense

      meanwhile, your english is abhorrent. And reproduction IS NOT the only use of sex and you know it.

      • Correct

        Reproduction is the only reason for sex. We find different ways to abuse sex but that does not remove the original purpose of sex. You can take a wrench and beat a man to death with it but is that the purpose of a wrench? I really hoped for better debates, but seeing that gays position is an un-winnable position to take in the first place I can understand the lack of supporting arguments. I accept that gays are not going anywhere anytime soon so yes we have to accept them exactly how they are and not discriminate. However that does not mean an intervention for people who are not yet gay and looking for answers should not be attempted. I am sure there are gays who are still sexually confused and may want to return to normal hetero couplings. The world is not black or white and I don’t expect the solution to be a black or white one either. Leave the publication alone please. It is harmless in its intent.

    • Correct

      No need to be hateful. Get your point across without all the anger please. It is very counter productive. You are no better than the people petitioning the article when you take this tone.

      • InthemostBiblicalSense

        Correct.. Leave, Just leave.

        • Correct

          Why don’t you leave the publication alone? When you stop, I will. In the meanwhile do some reading on your big revelation. Just in case you didn’t see it in the other posts. I am so sorry to burst your little “animals are gay” bubble. http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1905237,00.html Just remember the author John Cloud is gay and a writer for Time magazine so let us see you try and refute his research.

  • Nzinga

    Oh my God. sadly, the opinion of most straight people in trinidad is pure hate toward gays. If your sexual orientation does not affect my day, why would i let it?

    • Correct

      Exactly Nzinga. people’s sexual does not affect my day until they decide to behave inappropriately in front of my children. Straight people however do not have any hate towards gays in Trinidad. You are so wrong. If their are people like that I assure you it is in the minority. The average view point form straight men on homosexual men is more women for we. Straight people could not give a rats ass about what gay people do on a day to day basis. Everybody fighting up living their own lives. Where people begin to be disturbed is when people blatantly do disrespectful things in front of their influential children. People in Trinidad need to sanitize their behavior. Another issue no one is talking about is the few gays who engage in recruiting people when they should be counseled. Why is no one admitting to this. Why recruit someone who is confused instead of letting them get proper help by qualified people. If they really are gay , don’t you think that will come out in therapy? Instead they submerge them into their world until they are convinced that they are gay. I dare any gay person to say this does not happen.

      • Correct

        I do not agree with the name calling from Joe. There are better ways to communicate.

  • Hmm?

    http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx

    Check it out whenever you get the chance – a real source killing all of this foolishness dead.

    • Correct

      I read the article and it is very interesting. The only problem I have is why few studies are available regarding children of gay fathers. This is very disturbing to say the least. How can anyone know the real damage if no one is studying it. I can’t agree with them misusing the word normal. You cannot call something that occurs in a small percentage of a population normal.It is like saying it is normal for people to die from diabetes. The statistics does not correspond with normal. And as I said in another post, when two men or two women can have same sex reproduction naturally is when I would reconsider my position. Until then I support this article’s attempt to bring balance to the situation.

      • Hmm?

        I am kind of confused by the idea that I present an article that ideally disproves all the assertions of this ad you’re so enamored of, and it’s merely ‘interesting’. Also, you making the unproven assertion that there is an inherent harm in being a gay father, or the earlier assertion that sounded very much like you believe gays have sex in front of their children or something, doesn’t mean that your statement suddenly becomes truthful. The word normal is the same as it always been; if we disagree, fine, but the misuse is not on the part of the registered medical practitioners, I reckon. And if being minority is a mater of normalcy, then you must be against left-handers too. [hard luck for me]
        Also, to quell your misconceptions, here is a research paper done by three independent APA organizations.

        • Correct

          Well if you are a father you would know the purpose a father play in children’s lives. A father is the main role model for a boy. A boy literally emulates everything his father does. Girls get their confidence from a father’s love. A father’s affirmation to his girl that she is a princess goes a long way. A father also serves as an example of what qualities a woman should look for in a man. I am not against anybody by the way. Being for normal hetero sexual relationships, does not equate to against gays. This is what you need to understand. It is not a two sided coin where it as black and white as you make it seem. Because I like the color blue does not mean i hate the color red.

          • Correct

            Another thing it disproves nothing I said. It is an interesting read. However being gay is not normal. It is like saying being a murderer is normal when the numbers show as plain as day that it is in the minority and normal does not support minority figures.

          • Correct

            One thing I would like to ask. Am I to assume there would be no hand holding or kissing from gay parents in front of their children? What about the extreme effeminate mannerisms some gay men portray? Would this not rub off on the child? Or is it only well balanced gay men with no outward indications of being gay are awarded children? I am a bit confused as to the selection process used for these fathers in the first place. Can the research be skewed if only men who do not reek of gay are awarded children?

          • Correct

            I am reading your paper and they stated that they received a lot of criticism about the cross section and range of the group studied. What is also interesting is that 10 percent of the boys who were fathered by gay men ended up gay, This is a high figure is you ask me. I would like to see the occurrence of boys being gay reduce. I would like to see the figure reach 0 percent eventually. Still reading because it is a lot to cover.

  • ClimaxMorality

    Am still stumped that after the Crime Stoppers travesty, and no one held accountable for airing ‘child pornography’ (punishable by law), that the #1 Media House will risk this atrocity. From my pov, I have been exposed to the vain hypocrisy of media throughout my 37 years, which all prove the horrors of being human, hetero or not. Y would I ‘choose’ to deny myself my natural 4 year old urge for the bigoted ‘normal moral’ alternative of feeling disgust and nauseated by the opposite sex? The ‘choice’ of anonymity to spew lascivious comments, fully endorses the countless stats that recognize that individuals who so vehemently defend themselves, do in fact have their own ‘monsters in the closet’. If we choose to base the argument on the act of sex, ask yourself how natural and moral it is to reach climax and ejaculate without an intent to reproduce (Gen. 38:8-10)? Hence I need not defend my natural, normal and moral desires for love and companionship with my boyfriend because I feel 100% congruent with myself and creation. Peace and Blessing

    • Correct

      You see this is what i call freedom of speech. you are free to say it how you see it. Why can’t we say it how we see it. We are not talking about something superficial like the color of somebody’s skin or if they are fat or skinny. this is a serious issue that calls for serious conversations. This is about an entire species. This is not as simple as it sounds. By the way what would gays prefer to be called as a group? Gays, homosexuals? they both seem to have negative connotation attached to it. My point is that we should not censor an article that the intent is not to be harmful or damaging. Once again I urge you to look up the meaning of the word normal. You are trying to pervert the meaning of the word. Being gay is not normal. You can get away with calling it natural or even moral, but you CANNOT call it normal.

      • Correct

        By the way if you feel disgust towards women you have serious issues. I do not feel disgust or get nauseated if I see naked men. I don’t get aroused but the feeling you describe is very extreme. You should consider that something may be psychologically wrong in your case.

      • ClimaxMorality

        Are u fuh real… the colour of skin superficial. Now you’ve crossed all borders of respect and tolerance. You are now touting the same ‘genocide’ our ancestors fought against to give you the right to ‘speak’. In the same vein that I cannot ‘naturally’ change the color of my skin, my hair type, my height etc., the very same way you have no RIGHT to determine whether am ‘normal’ or not.
        Christianity and all religions all served to dictate and control the majority (like urself). So you need to remove that proverbial beam from your own eyes, so that your kids generation do not continue your legacy of bigotry, deceit, and ignorance.
        As you’ve accurately stated in an earlier post, a significant proportion of people have a mental condition, which translates to a majority of the world’s population in which you are more likely to fall than I who is in the minority. I know my psychological distress, it is one that is consistent with my disgust for ‘hetero-normativism’.
        All women I regard and respect for their ‘God-like’ attributes of ‘giving birth’; a fate I nor any other Gay individual envies of the ‘fairer sex’, so as for us ‘recruiting’ your mis-parented young ones, you honestly need not worry about us. Oh and as far as us perverting the course of life, i.e. reproduction, I don’t think you recognize that it’s perfectly ‘normal’ people like you and your spouse who conceive and give birth to us.
        Do you really not see further than the edge of your nose? Have you really read your scriptures or continue to be misled by your ‘leaders’ false premise alike the one you’ve so irresponsibly done with that Express quote?
        You need to STOP THE HATE, Trinibago has enough of our own ‘normal’ lives to live without having to get sidetracked with this discussion which you have obviously no authority on. Bless.

        • Correct

          I have no authority to speak now. Wow. Anyway it seems you have problems understanding what I am saying. Let me present the meaning of the word superficial to you.

          su·per·fi·cial [soo-per-fish-uhl] Show IPA adjective
          1. being at, on, or near the surface: a superficial wound.
          2. of or pertaining to the surface: superficial measurement.
          3. external or outward: a superficial resemblance.
          4. concerned with or comprehending only what is on the surface or obvious: a superficial observer.
          5. shallow; not profound or thorough: a superficial writer.

          So yes the color of one’s skin or someone’s appearance is superficial. I wish more of you would check a dictionary before you respond. ClimaxMorality the more you speak is the more damage you do to your cause. You do seem to have a lot of issues so I will not test you any further. Have a wonderful life sir.

  • Locally grown

    You know what’s funny about people’s “arguments”? “Homosexuality wrong because it nasty and the bible say it’s an abomination.” What else does the Bible teach us that is wrong? Take out your emotional/visceral reactions to people who are different from you; what is the REAL grouse with same-sex attraction? I don’t get it. All the naysayers just using their feelings and not actual proof to show why homosexuality is wrong.

    And the whole comparison of homosexuality and pedophilia? Really? You can’t tell the difference?

    • Correct

      I have no problem with how consenting adults want to behave in the privacy of their homes. What I have a serious problem with is when people expose my children to public displays that can seep into their psyche. The ultimate agenda of the gay community is to behave however they please publicly. I have a problem with people who would go into an average public space and behave in lewd acts in front of children, regardless of sexual orientation. What makes the matter worse is that children often emmulate what they see, so on top of having to worry about them mimicking sex acts, you now have to add homosexual sex acts to your list of problem. What people choose to do in private, once no harm comes to themselves or others is their business. Do not expose my children to it.

      • ClimaxMorality

        There’s a series of titles ‘for Dummies’, here’s a 1 on 1 you don’t seem to pay particular attention to as a parent. There is a switch on your devices that says ‘OFF’ and an option on every computer that has ‘parental control’ USE IT and don’t blame the same media you use to spew hate to justify your inefficiency as a parent. I can’t help but wonder how you even have this much time to respond to EVERY comment on an issue that is so totally a non-issue to you!!! Probably if you spend this same amount of energy on edifying your children, you wouldn’t need to fear us, because you will have sane confidence in their ‘choices’ and ‘fate’.

        • Correct

          When I go out with my children to see a movie is there an off button there? ClimaxMorality as I stated before you do more harm than good to your cause. Please choose what you say with a little more wisdom. I think I have a little more respect for the people who just call the publication hate than you who clearly have no grasp on reality.

          • Correct

            I have no control over what people do in public spaces. I have to constantly find ways to explain foolish behavior to my children. Trying to explain why two grown men are holding hands or why a man is dressed up as a woman or heaven forbid if they see two men kissing is just adding to an already complicated world. Thankfully gays in Trinidad are a little more respectful with public displays than gays in the US, but a time is coming when Trinidad may end up looking like the US or the UK. God help us all if that ever happens. Two men kissing in public to a child is no less shocking than a vagrant pulling out his penis and waving it in public. Our children do not need any more mixed signals than already exist.

  • Scott

    Situations like this still amaze me. First and foremost the fact that citations like “The Christian Guide to Understanding Homosexuality” are used to back up these so called “factual” statements had me literally on the floor laughing. I am sorry to be offensive to any other Christians with half a brain on this petition, but on the topic of homosexuality the words “Christian” and “Understanding” don’t go hand in hand. Christian understanding or at least that nonsense that was written in the old testament is about the same as my understanding of organic chemistry… nonexistent. Unfortunately those teachings still translate through today. Now i will say that everyone has a right to speak their beliefs no matter how narrow minded it may seem by today standards but never will I agree with putting it out under the guise of scientific fact.

    At the end of the day this is just another narrow minded article that is produced in order to perpetuate the constant cycle of bigotry and ignorance that plagues this island. I feel nothing but pity and shame for this person and for the express for allowing this smut to reach the eyes of so many people. As for “Correct” i am sorry to say this but I am scared for your children…you wont allow the to be brainwashed by “gayness” but you will personally brainwash them with something far worse…ignorance.

    • Correct

      This island is not bigoted. There are a lot of successful gays who all people get along with just fine. Do not try to paint the entire country as bigots because that is nothing less than a lie. Trinidad goes so far as to support gays on many levels. What I do not support is when people want to oppress and censor an article that does not have any hateful tones attached to it. If gays want to refute what was printed fine, but do not attempt to censor it and think you will not meet with resistance.

      • ClimaxMorality

        With a title “What You Should Know About Homosexuality” that spills disputed and disputable research by an unknown source, that has the ability to influence ignorant minds to pursue ‘hate’, is a censorship priority ‘Correct’. In the same vein, if I were too anonymously publish a full page ad disputing your ignorance titled “What You Should Know About Homophobia”, I will get spiralling abuse from the ‘majority’ you so casually adopt, when in truth and fact, I work and interact daily with Heterosexuals who all agree that your views fall very far from reality. Get up from your computer, take the children out to see the world. Hunni, it’s much more pleasant, bigger and brighter than you submit yourself to live.

        • Correct

          You will not get any abuse if you publish that and you know it. It probably has already been done. I do not subscribe to homophobia. Why do everyone believe it is either one or the other. If you are not for homosexuality it automatically makes you homophobic. I like a lot of gay people. there are gays who are pillars in our society. Not agreeing with homosexuality means that I hate homosexuals? Seriously now, you all are taking this shit too far. I think as adults you should have better sense than to harbor such thoughts. I disagree with my wife all the time, on a daily basis. Does that mean that I hate her? Let better sense prevail for once please.

  • MandiNic

    It’s a paid advertisement. ie.. It may or MAY NOT reflect the views of the staff at the Express. Nowhere in it does it mention that we must hate homosexuals. I’m a firm believer in people’s rights to express themselves, gay or straight. Demanding an apology from the Express is just ludicrous. Don’t shoot the messenger.

  • meh

    meh i tend to think it has more racial discrimination than gay hate in this country…you ever walk on the promenade on a Friday evening? there are tons of homosexuals who freely show it..in malls as well and no one does anything to them. I think your all just having the “trini mentality” to find something to b**th about. The article doesn’t show hate of any kind to demand an apology just a different point of view based on statistic(which is probable wrong) but so what? rather than you demand an apology for all the lude and provocative garbage that is in our national papers for carnival every year (our culture ohhh im so proud of it /sacasm) your lookin to throw a tantrum over some simpleminded thing as this? for everyone sake grow some common sense and unite over something that needs to be done e.g. the amount of songs played on the radio containing a certain way of life that pushes our youths in the wrong direction<—-fight for that

    • Correct

      I second that emotion.

  • not_homo_but

    i’m not gay at all and i am not a holy person. i guess this combination makes me impartial on the subject. Gays/Bi’s have the right to do whatever they want.

    It is just as easy for people to start making fun of religion who preach the “right” way but no one does because if they do it would infringe the right to freedom of beliefs.

    I must say though, that i am tired of these christians making such a big deal about this. Putting no water in my mouth i will say it as it is….IF PERSON X WANTS TO PUT A PENIS IN THE RECTUM IT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO HURT YOURS. THAT IS THEIR CHOICE AND YOU NEED TO FIND YOUR OWN DAMN PLACE AND STOP PEEPING IN THE NEIGHBOR’S WINDOW.

    as well just wanna make fun of the “not nature to be homo” statement in the ad…..you might wanna go check that up. a lot of species have homosexuality for various reasons.

    PLEASE STOP PRINTING PROPAGANDA…..SHAME ON YOU EXPRESS

  • more_correct

    correct it is the most ABnORMAL thing in the world to respond to every single comment, but can I just say you are wrong wrong wrong and my name is more correct, and my brother’s name is even more correct and my father’s name is even more correct senior and his father is god, sooooo i think that about wraps it up for you huh?, let;s troll the troll, oh and i am gay and I behave like a big hen and wear girly clothes and that’s me and I love me and god loves me, how dare you call anything god has created as any less than perfect? any less than perfect would mean god makes mistakes so maybe your argument is really with god

  • GOD

    CORRRRR RECCCCCT I DO NOT MAKE MISTAKES MY CHILD. LOVE ALL THAT I HAVE CREATED AND YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO JUDGE FOR YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF THE MYSTERIES OF YOUR EXISTENCE NOR THEIRS, SO JUST BE THANKFUL YOU ARE HAVING THIS EXPERIENCE AND SHUT THE HEAVENS UP!!